Headlight Washer Mod

[jkram]

FlyinLo, the headlight washers could be done with all factory parts and ten or so feet of washer hose.
I'm tempting you........lol

[FlyinLo]

I would really like to do it. Any chance you might be interested in helping out?

We could do all 3 Jeeps :horse:

[jkram]

All you would have to do is 'tee' into the windshield washer hose. Then mount a couple spray nozzles......I would hate to drill the bumper.......maybe secure them behind your headlight brows aiming down. Then if they don't work good enough, you can take the stuff out.
That would be a decent setup.

[FlyinLo]

JKram, couple of things:

Depending on the size of nozzles I could get ahold of, I'm not sure they would fit between the eyebrows and the headlight.

I would love to have the pop-up kind of washer like you see in Audis, Volvos, Mercedes. If they aren't overly elaborate and would work when just supplied with a hose & pressure.
I could bring myself to drill into the bumper if I could get ahold of a pair of those and have them painted to match the Jeep.

Also, by diverting some fluid from the windshield to the headlights I wonder how ineffective two systems would be...maybe an additional reservoir/pump unit would be necessary for a headlight system.

[Street LX]

no way man. you wouldnt need much to the headlights. and the amt going to the windshield is way plenty now!

[FlyinLo]

Think about it though, without wipers the headlights would actually need quite a bit of pressure to be effective. I wonder how much a system would cost at an audi dealership.

[FlyinLo]

Pump: $106
Nozzle: $6 apiece
Hose: $.50

Having headlight washers in the winter: Priceless

:horse::horse::horse: :pablo:

[blackattack182]

I don't know what kind of elements you guys suffer, but I sure as hell don't have any needs like these. People requiring a special tool to dust off the pollen, washers to clean the headlights in the winder, air deflectors for the obscene dust problems... What is this world coming to?

A washer kit would be cool from Audi, but you would need a bunch of stuff that probably isn't provided, like the little motor to push up the nozzle, and where would you mount the pump and reservoir?

[FlyinLo]

Audi would be a nice way to go. Probably pricey. I would just assume that the hose pressure causes the nozzle to raise, just like the irrigation system at home.

Mounting the pump & reservoir would be the least of my troubles, running the hose, mounting the nozzles & coming up with some way to activate the washers would be more troublesome.

[blackattack182]

That's true. You could probably run them off the same switch as the windshield wiper nozzles. They aren't huge; you could leave them on the bumper and not have them raise and lower. That's just another thing to go wrong. If you used your old Halloween intelligence (shaving cream can: insert needle, melt nozzle until it has the opening the size of the needle, spray that shizzat) maybe you could generate some extra pressure that way. as long as one jet was aimed at the low beams you would be in good shape; the high beams are powerful enough to cut through any muck and you don't use them too much anyway.

[FlyinLo]

Good point about the low beams, hadn't thought about that.

I don't think I would want them to operate with the windshield nozzles, but that would definetely be easy to implement.

Individual control would be nice, but then...where and how to mount a controller?

[jkram]

Well if you activate them with the windshield switch you save alot of work. tee into the system put the nozzles close to the location and test the pressure. If you need to add an aftermarket pump, they sell them everywhere they go inline and tap the original motor wire for juice. That could give a good pressure spray. The same nozzles on the hood look good enough for the task. But drilling the brand new bumper? I don't know? It would look factory though.

[FlyinLo]

I saw a chrome washer nozzle in my searching and thought maybe it could be mounted on the grille. Kind of Envoy-ish.

I would rather drill into bumper than grille though.

[jkram]

The bumper would look so factory. One more thing to think about......if they are lower than the reservoir, would it siphon out. Now you know what engineers go through designing this stuff.

[FlyinLo]

The nozzles are so small i doubt they would siphon out.

[blackattack182]

Maybe you could just buy some Windex and save yourself the design trouble?

The idea is definitely cool, and most importantly, very feasible. You could even get the light-up ones and integrate them with the turn signals or something. The only thing I'm worried about is how wide the spray would pan to get the whole light and most of all, blast the stuff off. Maybe you you could two on each side.

Another idea, to add on to the current one, would be to add a heating unit to the spray so it cuts through any snow on your windshield, and on your headlights.

[Street LX]

i dont see the point in this mod at all? every spray windshield wiper fluid on ur windshield w/o wipers? what the hell is the fluid gonna do on the headlights besides dribble down?

[blackattack182]

It's not a point of whether it will or won't work. It's the fact that it could be done.

[FlyinLo]

They must not use salt on the roads where you guys live. When you drive behind traffic on a wet, salty road the salt builds up pretty quickly on any exposed surface. It cuts down light output by 70% or so. Not to mention I have HID low beams... salt will cause a ton of glare.

I do carry a bottle of windex and paper towels with me but its a pain in the ass to have to pull over to clean the headlights.
Nobody said you guys had to do the mod, but it'll definetely benefit me in the climates I drive in.

[Street LX]

well derrick, just offering a 2nd opinion like u did with removing the rear wiper.

alex, wtf?

[blackattack182]

Which one are you wtf'ing? If it's the "could be done" one, then my explanation is that it's a job, a challenge, a task, etc. Even if you never use it, you've done a cool custom mod and no one else can say otherwise.

[blackforce5]

Originally posted by FlyinLo
They must not use salt on the roads where you guys live. When you drive behind traffic on a wet, salty road the salt builds up pretty quickly on any exposed surface. It cuts down light output by 70% or so. Not to mention I have HID low beams... salt will cause a ton of glare.

I do carry a bottle of windex and paper towels with me but its a pain in the ass to have to pull over to clean the headlights.
Nobody said you guys had to do the mod, but it'll definetely benefit me in the climates I drive in.


i dont know where you live? but i live in salt lake city and in the winter theres always a shit load of salt, ive NEVER had a problem with salt on my headlights... mabey if i didnt clean my car for 4 months and just let it cake on there?> i think this mod is a waste of time and money... if our jeeps came with it stock itd be cool, but since they dont? why bother? its not gonna make that big of a difference....

[FlyinLo]

I don't feel the need to rationalize any mod I do to anybody, I explained in my previous post why this mod would be helpful to me.

Blackforce, to make it easier, how about you keep quiet and I'll just assume you disagree with anything I say or any mod I do.
If you have a personal problem with me we can discuss it in U2U.
Otherwise, :getout:

[jkram]

I wipe my wife's head lights in the winter before she goes to work. I does help. Some vehicles come with spray nozzles, so their is something to it.
Some mods are done for individuality, some for practicality, some for both.

I mean her Jeep's head lights!

[FlyinLo]

http://autos.msn.com/advice/article.aspx?contentid=4022429

"Keep your windshield and headlamps clean, taking care to clean both the inside and outside of the windshield regularly. Dirty, pitted and fogged windshields can increase glare, and dirt on headlamps can reduce light output by up to 75 percent."

[jkram]

Check out this link.....http://www.msfoster.com/hws.html

[FlyinLo]

Thanks for the link, JKram

Wish there site was a bit more up-to-date with better pics & some pricing!

It'll probably be much cheaper to custom-fabricate using OEM parts.

I've been thinking these past few days about my eyebrows and I may redesign them slightly for a couple of reasons and a side-effect would be a little more room to possibly mount a washer nozzle beneath it.

[TheBackRoads]

I think you guys are really thinking now, its a great idea, i really hear you since im used to the bad road conditions and winters. Hope one of you go though with this, id be tight.

[FlyinLo]

I've been real busy lately, haven't worked on any of my projects for a while.

[TheBackRoads]

Anyone thought more about doing this mod? Maybe when winter rolls around again, eh?

[xfwill78]

http://www.buyhotshot.com/

These are nice because they have a pump built in and also heat the fluid. I am sure there is a way to run these to other nozzels.

[TheBackRoads]

That's not a bad idea for the headlights, since theres no wipers or anything.

[blackattack182]

Are those things powrful enough to blast dirt/salt/bugs off the headlights? Also, do they have a wide enough spray to take care of the whole headlight? What about the fogs?

[TheBackRoads]

The BMW i think its the X5 suv has these, there are 4 total, and on each point of discharge, it sprays 2 beams, so total fluid beams, 8. now thats got some washing power.