Nitrous Set-up

[Street LX]

Since I've pretty much modded out the Jeep I am considering entering it into some local shows for fun. So I am thinking about doing a few more upgrades. Also for fun I think this would be of good use.

I know what I am getting into as I've had nitrous on a past car.

I am looking into this kit. I called the guy and he said it will work fine with the 2005 3.7 Jeep.

http://www.dynotunenitrous.com/store/scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=100

[FlyinLo]

A douchebag neighbor of mine in FL toasted his Mustang engine with NOS.

Be careful!

[blackattack182]

Mustang engines should be put in a toaster.

I wouldn't actually install a tank. If you want to do it for looks, that could be cool... Or you could get two Bazooka BAS tanks. Those look cool and would help out your system.

Don't forget about the JET chip and the K&N intake. Those are two good mods.

[TheBackRoads]

DO IT!!!! NAWZ!!!!! Mustang engines cant handle alot of Nos on a stock engine, you have to re-do alot of inards in order to make them last with huge shots.

[FlyinLo]

yeah, I'm sure the dipshit just threw a bottle on there without a second thought...
I thoroughly enjoyed the news when I heard he blew it up

[TheBackRoads]

do it do it do it!!!! be the first to have it!

[052wd]

id go with a lesser shot then that...maybe 20/25 just to be certain.

[HOJeepster]

If you want to step it up, why don't you just get rid of that V6 engine WK and get a V8 or Hemi? To be honest, I was excited to see how your car looked until I was told it was a V6...who goes with the V6 anyway?

[Street LX]

A 19 year old college student, jackass.

You can't just UPGRADE THE ENGINE ONLY!

and what the hell does my Jeeps looks have to do with its engine size.

[TheBackRoads]

I understand having the power, bigger engine, point of things, and i also think having a V6 and good looks is another thing. so what you might not get goin super fast, sometimes its all style my friend.

[blackattack182]

Originally posted by HOJeepster
If you want to step it up, why don't you just get rid of that V6 engine WK and get a V8 or Hemi? To be honest, I was excited to see how your car looked until I was told it was a V6...who goes with the V6 anyway?

Who keeps an older model when a new one is out? Jeez, that's whack.

Was that the talk around the coffee machine, Street WK's inadequacy? As a fellow black V6-powered WK owner, I think the engine is fine for my needs, and if a kid that hasn't even graduated college can swing a $30,000 car between school and work, that's damn enough reason to give him props.

[scaryanias]

the v6 has plenty of power to exceed your need, especially with the K&N intake, JET stage 2, and magnaflow, that's good enough for plenty of peaple. WK V6 enigine can become a beast if you let it .

[grandcherokee978]

i would do it, i did some local car shows in my last car. i had a 97 camaro ss, ram air hood,maganflow exhasut, supercharger, and bunch of other mods. its all fun at those shows, plus everyone likes a mean looking Jeep.

[05hemijeep]

DO IT .. NOS IS BAD ASS

[tysen1]

I'm happy with my V6. Plus, in Japan you have to pay a shitload to import a V8, so it was pretty much my only option.

[brettjeep17]

will that kit work with a 99 wj 4.0

[FlyinLo]

It says any 4 or 6 cylinder.

[HOJeepster]

So, if it's about riding in style and not about speed, why do NOS in the first place?

[Street LX]

Originally posted by HOJeepster
So, if it's about riding in style and not about speed, why do NOS in the first place?

Please top using the so called universal "NOS" word.

Looks.

[blackattack182]

Street, you should get the nitrous kit and two BAS bottles from Bazooka, and resticker them all so they're all nitrous tanks. That would be sweet, having three tanks in the back, and two of them pushing bass.

[FlyinLo]

N2O

[HOJeepster]

I think it's whack how you edit my messages, but leave WK's jackass coments in there...

Maybe you should be driving Honda's if you want NOS,...I mean "N20"....please. If you can put cash on some 22's, you're telling me you couldn't afford the 4.7L WK? I bet next you Street Jeepers are going to tell me youre rocking 2 wheel drive too!!!

[FlyinLo]

Who edited what? WK = StreetWK?

[RedOXM]

Originally posted by HOJeepster
I think it's whack how you edit my messages, but leave WK's jackass coments in there...

Maybe you should be driving Honda's if you want NOS,...I mean "N20"....please. If you can put cash on some 22's, you're telling me you couldn't afford the 4.7L WK? I bet next you Street Jeepers are going to tell me youre rocking 2 wheel drive too!!!

Yeah I got 2 wheel drive. My jeeps not trail rated either. :D

Also all sorts of vehicles (including trucks and suvs) have NITROUS OXIDE installed in them (some of the rides are professionally built too).

[HOJeepster]

Professionally built too?...thats amazing. They can do that kinda stuff?...wow

[Street LX]

Originally posted by HOJeepster
I think it's whack how you edit my messages, but leave WK's jackass coments in there...

Maybe you should be driving Honda's if you want NOS,...I mean "N20"....please. If you can put cash on some 22's, you're telling me you couldn't afford the 4.7L WK? I bet next you Street Jeepers are going to tell me youre rocking 2 wheel drive too!!!

Youre pushing it man. Stop trying to start shit. Don't think you can talk shit to the owner of the site and think its cool. :getout:

[HOJeepster]

I think all I'm saying is N2O really worth it? I say no, that's all.

Now lets talk about something more productive-

[Street LX]

Originally posted by HOJeepster
I think all I'm saying, is N2O really worth it? I say no, that's all.

Now lets talk about something more productive-

To some people it is, especially from a show aspect. Quit being an asshole. If you don't see the purpose in this thread don't post in it.

[blackattack182]

:yupp: :banned:

http://www.forum-auto.com/uploads/200401/.nemesis._1073143545_nos.jpg

[RedOXM]

Originally posted by HOJeepster
Professionally built too?...thats amazing. They can do that kinda stuff?...wow

Hey man, no need to be a douche about it. Just tryin to tell you that it aint just ricers who are putting NITROUS OXIDE (NOS is a freaking company product) in their rides :getout::asshat:

[FlyinLo]

I think everyone needs to take a couple deep breaths, go outside, take a piss, have a cookie... something...

Who cares if StreetWK has a V6? It doesn't need a V8 to look nice.
Who cares if he puts nitrous in, it's his Jeep.

[HOJeepster]

Agreed.

[RedOXM]

Yep

[EUROaleksey]

... im still FASTA!!! :horse: ... :))))) :fairy:

[ge2]

Pure and simple, N2O is THE cheapest per pony power adder. If installed and (more importantly) USED properly, you will have no ill-effects on the vehicle. It's a nice power adder. I've had it in the past, and will likely add it to my current Jeep. I have never been a 'Go-baby-go' button kinda guy. I've only had N2O installed to be used as a WOT boost.

[TheBackRoads]

Yea i think it would be really sweet to have it only activated at WOT.

[HOJeepster]

WOT?

[FlyinLo]

wide-open throttle

[ge2]

Exactly.... wide open throttle. So the ONLY time you use the N2O is when you mash the pedal to the floor (and even then, only if you've got the bottle ready). No buttons to push, no lids to flip.

[TheBackRoads]

i mash the throttle alot though... but still thats the way to do it.

[ge2]

If you mash the pedal a lot, then you'd for sure want a remote bottle opener. You can leave the gas off when you don't want it to spray at WOT.

[FlyinLo]

ge2, hardened engine parts are necessary to do nitrous the right way... right?

[ge2]

I am no expert by any means, but FROM MY EXPERIENCE using a 50-75 shot of N2O on completely stock motors has not caused any damage what so ever.

[Street LX]

See, thats the problem. People always "hear" about mods but never have experience or have done research. That is the exact same problem I have with selling a few HID kits.

Nitrous, when you used correctly, is safe.

[FlyinLo]

The only person I know who used nitrous blew up his engine.

Everyone I've ever talked to about it says you need hardened something-or-other parts, I forget what they were.

[ge2]

I have used it on 3 completely stock engines with no problems at all.

[blackattack182]

I'm not understanding what you're talking about, ge2, with your WOT technique. You just leave the bottle on and ready and when you stomp on it, it flows and you go? How does that work? Any links or anything?

Also, how does nitrous work? I know the whole internal combustion procedure, but do you take it out every so often and get it refilled? How quickly does it run out? What's the difference between 50, 75, 100, 150 shots of nitrous? How much would something like that cost?

[ge2]

Here is a great site for questions and answers:
http://www.nitrousexpress.com/Pages/faq.htm

[blackattack182]

How badly is fuel mileage affected if you had a 50 shot of nitrous installed?

[FlyinLo]

I assume it would only be affected when it's actually running through the system... and at that point, who cares?! :)

[blackattack182]

Well, I think you'd get used to romping on the pedal and getting the spray flowing, so you'd be using up more nitrous more often, and more gas...

Oh well. Scratch another mod of the potential list for this V6.

[FlyinLo]

Why are you scratching it?

Best bang-for-the-buck performance mod out there apparently.

[TheBackRoads]

I'd do it man, i mean if your not going to super or turbo your V6, why not add a little nitrous? nothing is going to get you more power per dollar.

[blackattack182]

I think the cost would eventually add up to the same as much larger mods. I don't know how long the bottle lasts, but if it's $500 for the kit, God knows how much the installation would be, and between $35 and $50 per refill, depending on what size bottle you get and cost per pound, that could add up quickly.

I'm looking for other mods now on the Dodge and the Liberty forums. Both of those groups have the 3.7L V6 also and can probably teach me and others a few things.

Fastman.com does custom throttle bodies, for anybody interested.

[FlyinLo]

25-50 per refill? damn.

[Street LX]

A bottle should last awhile. I mean you wouldn't be using it often.

Supercharger = $5000 say.
Nitrous = $475 say.

Nitrous with full kit plus 100 refills @ $35 per (10lb. bottle) = $3,975.

You save $1,025. Seems cost effective to me, also considering 100 refills is probably overkill. If you plan on keeping this Jeep for say 10+ years I wouldn't do it, but anything just shy of 10 years I would say go for it.

Although being apart of the Grand Am community I have seem many decent custom turbo systems made for around $2000-$3500, tops!

[TheBackRoads]

i kinda want a turbo.

[blackattack182]

Do superchargers only work at WOT, or do they work everywhere throughout? That's the determining factor. I'll give it enough gas to drop a couple gears and fly by someone, but I never (or very very rarely) slam it all the way to the floor, which seems to be the only way to take advantage of the nitrous kit. That's just overkill, and quite frankly, I don't want my engine to be slamming either off the rev limiter or way up in redline.

Street, your math seems right, but don't forget, NY is "The Expensive State." The $5,000 supercharger could be between $3,000 and $5,000, depending on parts used and all.

The real b!tch of it all is the installation these places charge. That supercharger would run $1,000 in install costs.

[FlyinLo]

The key difference between a turbocharger and a supercharger is its power supply. Something has to supply the power to run the air compressor. In a supercharger, there is a belt that connects directly to the engine. It gets its power the same way that the water pump or alternator does. A turbocharger, on the other hand, gets its power from the exhaust stream. The exhaust runs through a turbine, which in turn spins the compressor.

There are tradeoffs in both systems. In theory, a turbocharger is more efficient because it is using the "wasted" energy in the exhaust stream for its power source. On the other hand, a turbocharger causes some amount of back pressure in the exhaust system and tends to provide less boost until the engine is running at higher RPMs. Superchargers are easier to install but tend to be more expensive.

(http://auto.howstuffworks.com/question122.htm)

[TheBackRoads]

supers work at all rpm ranges. ahhh see i didnt know turbos used the exhaust to speed up, interesting. i knew they did something with the exhaust, i thought it sucked more out r something, interesting!!! :newbie:

[FlyinLo]

Yeah, the exhaust spins the turbine which compresses clean air.

[blackattack182]

We should just hook leaf blowers up to the intake and really get some forced induction. Can you say 200 MPH blowing power?

[FlyinLo]

DO IT - DO IT - DO IT

You might be better off strapping it to your roof (aim it towards the rear!)

[TheBackRoads]

hahah id try it on some beater r somthing, not my jeep.

[Bottom16]

To get back to the nitrous thing, I had a nitrous kit (150 shot) on my old '88 Cherokee Limited. I did have and intake, headers, cat-back, different ring and pinion set, and when I added the nitrous, it was hard to take the grin off my face. I used to pull up to unsuspecting mustangs at red lights and smoke them off the line (sans 4WD)....it was hilarious. I added it with about 50K to 60K on the engine and I never had any problems with it.....

The thing to think about is if there is something slightly wrong with your engine internally any mod like nitrous, blower, turbo will just let you know there's something wrong alot sooner....lol. Most stock engines can handle modest nitrous kits. If you're gonna do a 300 shot, then you definitely need a built engine.

Just my 2 cents.

(Get the nitrous....) subliminal message

[FlyinLo]

you get the nitrous :P

[dragisco]

As long as you take all the saftey mesaures, n2o is not a bad way to make power. Ive installed it on a lot of customer's cars.